UNITED STATES
SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
Washington, D.C. 20549
FORM 8-K
Current Report
Pursuant to Section 13 or 15(d)
of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934
Date of Report (Date of earliest event reported): June 12, 2007
OPTICAL CABLE CORPORATION
(Exact name of registrant as specified in its charter)
Virginia | 000-27022 | 54-1237042 | ||
(State or other jurisdiction of incorporation or organization) |
(Commission File Number) | (I.R.S. Employer Identification Number) |
5290 Concourse Drive Roanoke, VA | 24019 | |
(Address of principal executive offices) | (Zip Code) |
(540) 265-0690
(Registrants telephone number, including area code)
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Table of Contents
Item 2.02 | Results of Operations and Financial Condition | |
Item 9.01 | Financial Statements and Exhibits | |
Signatures | ||
Exhibits |
Item 2.02. | Results of Operations and Financial Condition |
On June 12, 2007, Optical Cable Corporation issued a press release announcing its 2007 second quarter financial results. On June 13, 2007, Optical Cable Corporation held a conference call to discuss the financial results for its 2007 second quarter. The press release is attached hereto as Exhibit 99.1 and the transcript for the conference call is attached as Exhibit 99.2.
Item 9.01. | Financial Statements and Exhibits |
(c) | Exhibits |
The following are filed as Exhibits to this Report.
Exhibit No. |
Description of Exhibit | |
99.1 | Press release issued June 12, 2007 (FILED HEREWITH) | |
99.2 | Transcript of conference call on June 13, 2007 (FILED HEREWITH) |
SIGNATURES
Pursuant to the requirements of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, the registrant has duly caused this report to be signed on its behalf by the undersigned hereunto duly authorized.
OPTICAL CABLE CORPORATION | ||
By: | /s/ TRACY G. SMITH | |
Name: | Tracy G. Smith | |
Title: | Vice President and Chief Financial Officer |
Dated: June 15, 2007
EXHIBIT INDEX
OPTICAL CABLE CORPORATION
Current report on Form 8-K
Exhibit No. | Description of Exhibit | |
99.1 | Press release issued June 12, 2007 (FILED HEREWITH) | |
99.2 | Transcript of conference call on June 13, 2007 (FILED HEREWITH) |
Exhibit 99.1
OPTICAL CABLE CORPORATION 5290 Concourse Drive Roanoke, VA 24019 (Nasdaq GM: OCCF) www.occfiber.com |
AT THE COMPANY: | ||||
Neil Wilkin President & CEO (540) 265-0690 investorrelations@occfiber.com |
Tracy Smith Vice President & CFO (540) 265-0690 investorrelations@occfiber.com |
AT JOELE FRANK, WILKINSON BRIMMER KATCHER: | ||||
Andrew Siegel (212) 355-4449 ext. 127 asiegel@joelefrank.com |
Ryan May (212) 355-4449 ext. 132 rmay@joelefrank.com |
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
OPTICAL CABLE CORPORATION REPORTS
FISCAL SECOND QUARTER 2007 FINANCIAL RESULTS
ROANOKE, VA, June 12, 2007 Optical Cable Corporation (Nasdaq GM: OCCF) today announced financial results for its fiscal second quarter and the six months ended April 30, 2007.
Second Quarter 2007 Financial Results
Optical Cable reported net income of $65,000, or $0.01 per basic and diluted share for its second quarter ended April 30, 2007, as compared to a net loss of $309,000, or $0.05 per basic and diluted share for the same period last year.
Net sales for the second quarter of fiscal 2007 decreased 0.9% to $11.1 million, compared to net sales of $11.2 million for the comparable period last year. However, net sales for the second quarter of fiscal 2007 sequentially increased 20.0% compared to net sales of $9.3 million during the first quarter of fiscal 2007.
Optical Cables gross profit margin improved during the second quarter of fiscal 2007 compared to the same period last year. Gross profit margin for the second quarter of fiscal 2007 increased to 34.1%, compared to 30.3% for the second quarter of fiscal 2006. Also during the second quarter of fiscal year 2007, Optical Cables manufacturing lead times decreased and its manufacturing efficiencies increased compared to the second quarter of 2006. These improvements are in part the result of Optical Cables successful implementation of the major portions of its new enterprise resource planning (ERP) system by the end of the second quarter of fiscal 2007.
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Selling, general and administrative expenses (SG&A expenses) for the second quarter of fiscal 2007 decreased 5.0% to $3.7 million compared to $3.9 million for the same period last year. Contributing to the net decrease in SG&A expenses for the second quarter were decreases in employee compensation costs.
Fiscal Year-to-Date 2007 Financial Results
The Company reported a net loss of $81,000, or $0.01 per basic and diluted share for the six months ended April 30, 2007, as compared to a net loss of $529,000, or $0.09 per basic and diluted share for the same period last year.
Net sales for the first six months of fiscal 2007 decreased 3.3% to $20.4 million from $21.1 million for the same period in fiscal 2006. However, the Companys gross profit margin increased to 34.6% for the first half of fiscal 2007 compared to 31.7% for the same period in fiscal 2006, again largely due to the implementation of a new ERP system.
SG&A expenses for the first half of fiscal 2007 decreased 4.8% to $7.2 million from $7.5 million for the same period last year. As previously noted, the net decrease in SG&A expenses for the first half of fiscal 2007 is partially attributable to decreases in employee compensation costs. In addition, Optical Cables shipping costs decreased due in part to targeted efforts to reduce shipping related expenses. The decreases in compensation costs and shipping costs were partially offset by increases in legal and professional fees.
Managements Comments
Optical Cable is a much stronger company than it was just one year ago. We are beginning to see the benefits of the investments in our systems, processes and facilities. In addition to helping us achieve improved gross profit margins and reduced inventory levels, these investments have helped position Optical Cable for future growth and increases in shareholder value, stated Mr. Neil Wilkin, President and CEO of Optical Cable Corporation.
After sequentially increasing net sales by 20% compared to the first quarter of 2007, we remain focused on executing on our initiatives to increase sales through the remainder of the year, said Mr. Wilkin.
Company Information
Optical Cable Corporation is a leading manufacturer of fiber optic cables primarily sold into the enterprise market, and the premier manufacturer of military ground tactical fiber optic cable for the U.S. military. Founded in 1983, Optical Cable Corporation pioneered the design and production of fiber optic cables for the most demanding military field applications, as well as fiber optic cables suitable for both indoor and outdoor use. The Companys current broad product offering is built on the evolution of these fundamental technologies, and is designed to provide end-users with fiber optic cables that are easy and economical to install, provide a high degree of reliability and offer outstanding performance characteristics. Optical Cable Corporation sells its products worldwide for uses ranging from commercial and campus installations to customized products for specialty applications and harsh environments,
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including military applications. The Company manufactures its high quality fiber optic cables at its ISO 9001:2000 registered and MIL-STD-790F certified facility located in Roanoke, Virginia.
Further information about Optical Cable Corporation is available on the World Wide Web at www.occfiber.com.
FORWARD-LOOKING INFORMATION
This news release by Optical Cable Corporation (the Company) may contain certain forward-looking information within the meaning of the federal securities laws. The forward-looking information may include, among other information, (i) statements concerning the Companys outlook for the future, (ii) statements of belief, anticipation or expectation, (iii) future plans, strategies or anticipated events, and (iv) similar information and statements concerning matters that are not historical facts. Such forward-looking information is subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual events to differ materially from the Companys expectations. Factors that could cause or contribute to such differences include, but are not limited to, the level of sales to key customers, including distributors; timing of certain projects and purchases by key customers; the economic conditions affecting network service providers; corporate and/or government spending on information technology; actions by competitors; fluctuations in the price of raw materials (including optical fiber); the Companys dependence on a single manufacturing facility; the Companys ability to protect its proprietary manufacturing technology; market conditions influencing prices or pricing; the Companys dependence on a limited number of suppliers; an adverse outcome in litigation, claims and other actions, and potential litigation, claims and other actions against the Company; an adverse outcome in regulatory reviews and audits and potential regulatory reviews and audits; adverse changes in state tax laws and/or positions taken by state taxing authorities affecting the Company; technological changes and introductions of new competing products; changes in end-user preferences of competing technologies, including copper cable and wireless, relative to fiber optic cable; economic conditions that affect the telecommunications sector, certain technology sectors or the economy as a whole; terrorist attacks or acts of war, and any current or potential future military conflicts; changes in the level of military spending by the United States government; ability to retain key personnel; the impact of changes in accounting policies, including those by the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Public Company Accounting Oversight Board; the Companys ability to successfully comply with, and the cost of compliance with, the provisions of Section 404 of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002 or any revisions to that act which apply to the Company; impact of future consolidation among competitors and/or among customers adversely affecting the Companys position with its customers and/or our market position; actions by customers adversely affecting the Company in reaction to the expansion of the Companys product offering in any manner, including, but not limited to, by offering products that compete with its customers, and/or by entering into alliances with, and/or making investments in or with, parties that compete with and/or have conflicts with customers of the Company; adverse reactions by customers, vendors or other service providers to unsolicited proposals regarding the acquisition of the Company by another company; the additional costs of considering and possibly defending the Companys position on such unsolicited proposals regarding the acquisition of us by another company; impact of weather or natural disasters in the areas of the world in which the Company operates and
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markets its products; changes in market demand, exchange rates, productivity, or market and economic conditions in the areas of the world in which the Company operates and markets its products and the Companys success in managing the risks involved in the foregoing. The Company cautions readers that the foregoing list of important factors is not exclusive and the Company incorporates by reference those factors included in current reports on Form 8-K.
(Financial Tables Follow)
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OPTICAL CABLE CORPORATION
CONDENSED STATEMENTS OF OPERATIONS
(thousands, except per share data)
(unaudited)
Three Months Ended April 30, |
Six Months Ended April 30, |
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2007 | 2006 | 2007 | 2006 | |||||||||||||
Net sales |
$ | 11,132 | $ | 11,239 | $ | 20,409 | $ | 21,110 | ||||||||
Cost of goods sold |
7,334 | 7,838 | 13,341 | 14,413 | ||||||||||||
Gross profit |
3,798 | 3,401 | 7,068 | 6,697 | ||||||||||||
Selling, general and administrative expenses |
3,697 | 3,891 | 7,184 | 7,543 | ||||||||||||
Income (loss) from operations |
101 | (490 | ) | (116 | ) | (846 | ) | |||||||||
Interest income (expense), net |
| 13 | (11 | ) | 27 | |||||||||||
Other, net |
(1 | ) | (5 | ) | 2 | (6 | ) | |||||||||
Other income (expense), net |
(1 | ) | 8 | (9 | ) | 21 | ||||||||||
Income (loss) before income taxes |
100 | (482 | ) | (125 | ) | (825 | ) | |||||||||
Income tax expense (benefit) |
35 | (173 | ) | (44 | ) | (296 | ) | |||||||||
Net income (loss) |
$ | 65 | $ | (309 | ) | $ | (81 | ) | $ | (529 | ) | |||||
Net income (loss) per share: |
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Basic and diluted |
$ | 0.01 | $ | (0.05 | ) | $ | (0.01 | ) | $ | (0.09 | ) | |||||
Weighted average shares outstanding: |
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Basic |
6,067 | 5,999 | 6,037 | 5,902 | ||||||||||||
Diluted |
6,086 | 5,999 | 6,037 | 5,902 | ||||||||||||
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OPTICAL CABLE CORPORATION
CONDENSED BALANCE SHEET DATA
(thousands)
(unaudited)
April 30, 2007 |
October 31, 2006 | |||||
Cash and cash equivalents |
$ | 1,888 | $ | 555 | ||
Trade accounts receivable, net |
7,150 | 8,297 | ||||
Inventories |
7,081 | 8,615 | ||||
Other current assets |
1,242 | 1,280 | ||||
Total current assets |
$ | 17,361 | $ | 18,747 | ||
Non-current assets |
16,263 | 16,044 | ||||
Total assets |
$ | 33,624 | $ | 34,791 | ||
Current liabilities |
$ | 2,791 | $ | 4,306 | ||
Non-current liabilities |
74 | 50 | ||||
Total liabilities |
$ | 2,865 | $ | 4,356 | ||
Total shareholders equity |
30,759 | 30,435 | ||||
Total liabilities and shareholders equity |
$ | 33,624 | $ | 34,791 | ||
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Exhibit 99.2
FINAL TRANSCRIPT
Conference Call Transcript
OCCF - Q2 2007 Optical Cable Earnings Conference Call
Event Date/Time: Jun. 13. 2007 / 10:00AM ET
Operator
Good morning, my name is Ray and I will be your conference coordinator for today. At this time I would like to welcome everyone to the Optical Cable Corp. Quarter Two, 2007 earnings conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers remarks there will be a question-and-answer period.
(OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS)
It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to your host, Mr. Andrew Siegel. Sir, you may begin your conference.
Andrew Siegel - Joele Frank, Wilkinson Brimmer Katcher - IR
Good morning and thank you all for participating in Optical Cable Corporations second quarter of fiscal 2007 conference call.
By this time, everyone should have a copy of the earnings press release. If you dont have one, please visit www.occfiber.com for a copy.
On the call with us today is Neil Wilkin, Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer of Optical Cable Corporation, as well as other members of the senior management team.
Before we begin, Id like to remind everyone that this call may be may contain forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties. The actual future results of Optical Cable Corporation may differ materially due to a number of factors, including, but not limited to, those factors set forth in detail in the forward-looking statements section of the press release.
Cautionary statements apply to the contents of the internet webcast on www.occfiber.com, as well as todays call.
Now Id like to turn the call over to Neil Wilkin. Neil, please begin.
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Thank you, Andrew, and good morning, everyone.
Joining me today on our conference call are Tracy Smith, our Chief Financial Officer, and Luke Huybrechts, our Senior Vice President of Operations.
Id like to begin the call today with a few opening remarks. Then - I will have Tracy review the second quarter results for the three-month and six-month periods ended April 30, 2007 in more detail. After Tracys remarks, we will answer as many of your questions as we can.
I would like to note that during the Q&A session we will - as we normally do - take questions from analysts and institutional investors. Additionally, we will also answer questions from individual investors that were submitted prior to todays call.
As a reminder, we do offer an opportunity for individual shareholders to submit questions in advance of our earnings call and we will include instructions regarding such submissions in our press release announcing the date and time of our earnings call - as we did for todays call.
During the second quarter of 2007, net sales sequentially increased 20%, or $1.9 million, when compared to the first quarter, while net sales decreased slightly when compared to the first quarter of last year.
At the same time, our gross profit margin increased to 34.1% during the second quarter of fiscal 2007 compared to 30.3% during the same period last year - repeating similar improvements we experienced to our gross profit margins during the first quarter of this year compared to last year.
I am pleased to report that as of May 1st, we have transitioned from dual processing transactions on separate systems to exclusively using our new ERP system, or enterprise resource planning system, successfully implementing the major portions of our new ERP system on-time, as previously promised to you.
As a result, in addition to our improved gross profit margins, our manufacturing lead times decreased and our manufacturing efficiencies increased during the first half of fiscal 2007 when compared to the same period last year. We have also been able to reduce levels of certain inventories. We believe these improvements are in part the result of our new ERP system.
Optical Cable is a much stronger company today than it was just one year ago. We believe that the benefits of the significant investments we have made in our systems, processes and facilities are beginning to be realized and that these investments have helped - and will continue to help - position us for future growth and increase in shareholder value.
Our focus for the remainder of fiscal year 2007 is on increasing net sales. We believe our investments have made our business more scalable, positioning us to support increased net sales levels, and in the fourth quarter of 2006 we demonstrated the value we can create for shareholders as we increase our sales. We also expect our efforts on key strategic initiatives to continue during the second half of fiscal year 2007.
We believe that OCC is an outstanding investment at this time for a number of reasons and Im going to briefly discuss some of these reasons, as I did at our shareholders meeting recently:
First, we are an industry leader in a growing market. Industry predictions are that the enterprise fiber optic cable market will continue to grow in the coming years - particularly as copper datacom cable volumes begin to decline. And, our strong position as one of the top U.S. manufacturers of fiber optic cable for the enterprise market means we are well positioned to participate in that industry growth.
Second, we have a broad and unique product line. Our product offering allows us to target specific market niches and applications where our products are particularly well-suited. In short, many of our products can be differentiated from our competitors products and we offer more variety of products than our competitors, creating much of the customer loyalty we enjoy today.
Next, our upgraded systems, processes and facilities. In recent years weve invested over $6 million in CapEx to upgrade our manufacturing equipment, to design and install proprietary machine control systems, to implement a new ERP system to make other improvements and upgrades to our systems, processes and facilities. These improvements were necessary to ensure Optical Cables operations were scalable and bring us to the strong position we are in today.
We also have a strong balance sheet. We are pleased that as of April 30, 2007 we still do not have any debt on our balance sheet and have $1.9 million in cash and cash equivalents. Our solid balance sheet, and the financial flexibility it affords, supports our future growth and success, as well as our strategic initiatives.
And finally, we have a number of strategic initiatives, which among other things include our investments that will permit us to expand our product offerings. And weve made some disclosures and made some had some discussions about those matters previously.
I will now turn the call over to Tracy Smith, our Chief Financial Officer, who will review some specifics regarding our second quarter financial results. Tracy?
Tracy Smith - Optical Cable Corp. - VP, CFO
Thank you, Neil.
For our second quarter of fiscal year 2007, we reported net income of $65,000, or $0.01 per basic and diluted share, compared to a net loss of $309,000, or $0.05 per basic and diluted share, for the same period last year.
On a year-to-date basis, we reported a net loss of $81,000, or $0.01 per basic and diluted share, compared to a net loss of $529,000, or $0.09 per basic and diluted share, for the same period last year.
Both our net income for the second quarter of 2007 and our net loss for the year-to-date period represent a notable improvement over the same periods last year.
Net sales decreased slightly to $11.1 million for the second quarter of fiscal year 2007 compared to $11.2 million for the same period last year. However, net sales sequentially increased 20% during the second quarter of fiscal year 2007 compared to net sales of $9.3 million for the first quarter of fiscal year 2007.
The slight decrease in net sales during the second quarter of fiscal year 2007 when compared to the same period last year was primarily attributable to a decrease in our commercial market compared to the same period last year. Net sales in certain of our specialty markets increased during the second quarter compared to last year, partially offset by decreases in certain other specialty markets.
Net sales decreased 3.3% to $20.4 million for the first half of fiscal year 2007 from $21.1 million for the same period in 2006.
Net sales to customers located outside of the United States continued to show substantial strength in the first half of fiscal year 2007, increasing 12.5% compared to the same period last year.
As we have indicated previously, we generally believe our net sales can be impacted by seasonality factors. We typically expect net sales to be relatively lower in the first half of each fiscal year and relatively higher in the second half of each fiscal year. This pattern may be substantially altered by the timing of larger projects or other economic factors impacting our industry or impacting the industries of our customers and end users. As a result, while we believe net sales results experienced in the first half of fiscal year 2007 were impacted by seasonality factors, were hesitant to try to predict net sales for future periods based on seasonality because these other factors can also substantially impact our net sales patterns during the year.
Gross profit margin, or gross profit as a percentage of net sales, increased to 34.1% for the second quarter of fiscal year 2007 compared to 30.3% for the same period last year. For the year-to-date period, gross profit margin increased to 34.6% compared to 31.7% for the same period last year.
During the first half of fiscal year 2007, our manufacturing lead times decreased, our manufacturing efficiencies increased and our gross profit margins improved when compared to the first half of fiscal year 2006. We believe these improvements are in part the result of the successful implementation of the major portions of our ERP system by the end of the second quarter of fiscal year 2007 as well as overcoming certain ERP implementation challenges during the first half of fiscal year 2006.
As a reminder, our gross profit margin percentages are also heavily dependent upon product mix on a quarterly basis and may deviate from expectations based on both anticipated and unanticipated changes in product mix.
SG&A expenses for the second quarter of fiscal year 2007 decreased 5% to $3.7 million compared to $3.9 million for the comparable period last year.
Contributing to the net decrease in SG&A expenses for the quarter were decreases in employee compensation costs, primarily due to severance expenses we incurred in the second quarter of fiscal year 2006 associated with certain changes we made within our sales organization last year.
We made capital expenditures of $387,000 and continued other investing activities in the first half of fiscal year 2007 - all without using our credit facility for working capital. As of the end of our second quarter, we had a cash balance of approximately $1.9 million with no outstanding balance on our credit facilities and approximately $12.4 million unused and available under our credit facilities.
And with that, I will turn you back over to Neil.
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Thank you, Tracy. Now, we are happy to answer as many of your questions as we can. We will first take calls from our analysts and fund investors, as we normally do, and as time permits, we will address the questions submitted in advance of todays conference call by our individual investors.
Operator, please indicate the instructions for participants to call in their questions.
QUESTION AND ANSWER
Operator
Thank you. (OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS)
Our first question comes from Chris McCampbell of Stifel Nicholas. Please go ahead.
Chris McCampbell - Stifel Nicholas - Analyst
Morning, Neil. First quarter you mentioned that you expected you would increase sales and improve financial performance in 08. What are the factors that give you that confidence right now? I guess youre still sticking with that outlook.
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
We did expect sales to improve in 07 is what you mean, correct?
Chris McCampbell - Stifel Nicholas - Analyst
Right, Im sorry.
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Yes. The reason why we believe thats the case is a couple of different things.
One is because the industry is growing at the moment and while there seems to be more volatility on a month to month basis and a quarter to quarter basis in our industry than weve seen in recent years, the overall trend consistently is, or the consensus of the industry is, is that the fiber optic cable for the enterprise market is going to continue to grow. And were well positioned to take advantage of that.
While we want to be growing with the industry as it grows, we also have a number of sales initiatives that we are undertaking to increase sales in the meantime.
And one of those weve talked about for some time, which is weve targeted specific market segments where our products are particularly well suited and were seeing increased business and new customers as were doing that.
And so thats the overall reason why were optimistic.
We are at a point, and Ive talked about this before, where weve built a capability at the company and with just a little bit of an increase in sales, particularly as you see once we get above that $12 million mark like we saw in the fourth quarter of 2006, we drop an incredible amount of value down to the bottom line for our shareholders and we think that as sales increase even further that would be further increased.
And so were right now at a point where we have made the improvements in the company and theres a fair amount of fixed costs that were covering and as we increase those sales, thats where the value comes from.
Thats sort of a follow-on piece, I guess, to your initial question, but thats but thats the reason why were optimistic about sales increasing.
Chris McCampbell - Stifel Nicholas - Analyst
Okay. Because obviously after two quarters youve gotten about $20 million in sales for the year. So in order to grow the company year over year, youre going to have to be doing $13 million in sales per quarter for the remainder of the year.
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Thats right.
Chris McCampbell - Stifel Nicholas - Analyst
And thats something you feel comfortable with?
Neil Wilkin - - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
At this point we do. I mean thats consistent with what our projections are.
Chris McCampbell - Stifel Nicholas - Analyst
Okay.
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
I guess the answer is we havent changed our we havent changed our outlook yet. I think that its clearly, the second half of the year is going to be challenging but we havent changed our outlook at this point.
Chris McCampbell - Stifel Nicholas - Analyst
You also announced a share repurchase, I guess back in March. Did you all repurchase any shares here in the quarter?
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
We have set up a broker to repurchase shares, but as of the end of April we had not purchased any shares in the market.
Chris McCampbell - Stifel Nicholas - Analyst
Is the limitation there just the liquidity of the stock? Are you unable to purchase a sizeable amount just because of the average trading volume?
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Obviously that is something that is a limit. At this point, the broker just hasnt been hasnt been in the market yet. And so at this point we just havent repurchased any shares. And I perceive that will change as we move forward this year.
Chris McCampbell - Stifel Nicholas - Analyst
Okay. Because as I recall, you had expected to repurchase that 5% within a 12 month period and you would still expect to do that?
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Thats exactly right, yes.
Chris McCampbell - Stifel Nicholas - Analyst
Okay. Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from Kevin Wenck of Polynous Capital Management. Please go ahead.
Kevin Wenck - Polynous Capital Management - Analyst
Good morning, Neil and Tracy.
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Morning, Kevin.
Tracy Smith - Optical Cable Corp. - VP, CFO
Good morning.
Kevin Wenck - Polynous Capital Management - Analyst
A couple of questions. You noted the inventories were down. I wasnt quite sure if your comments suggested that it was all attributable to the new systems up and running and in place or whether it was attributable to just overall inventory management. So any more color you could give us on that?
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Well, on finished goods in particular our new system has permitted us to better manage our finished goods inventory in particular. We still have fluctuations in inventory that occur based on based on when we purchase raw materials or what happens to be in process.
And so when we file our 10-Q later today, youll notice that about compared to the end of last year, about $1 million of finished we produced finished goods inventory about $1 million. Weve also had an additional reduction in raw materials.
Now, the ERP system at this point hasnt been used to really try to adjust or reduce our raw material inventory. And so what I was referring to was our finished goods inventory. And again, that can end up fluctuating for various reasons, but overall weve seen that inventory come down.
And what our VP of manufacturing is telling me is that he doesnt believe he needs as much inventory as he has needed previously to meet sales demand and specifically hes saying thats because of his ability to predict needed inventory levels with the new ERP system.
Kevin Wenck - Polynous Capital Management - Analyst
Okay. What would be your estimate of sales that you might not have been able to ship during the quarter because of still all that not being as finely tuned as your inventory manager and you would like?
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Were not to the point at this point we have we dont have were not missing we dont believe were missing sales because of not having inventory.
Kevin Wenck - Polynous Capital Management - Analyst
Okay.
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
We believe at this point we believe at this point we have inventory necessary and also short enough lead times that were able to better service our customers than our competitors are.
Kevin Wenck - Polynous Capital Management - Analyst
Okay. On another question, you mentioned that you have, from a lot of the internal programs, the infrastructure in place to support higher level of sales. Youve also in the last year had some turnover in the marketing and sales area.
Where are you now in terms of your assessment of marketing and sales effectiveness and what more things need to be done over the next six to 12 months to get to where youd like to be in terms of consistent and effective execution in the marketing and sales area?
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Thats exactly the key question and thats something that were very focused on here. We have a very capable sales and marketing group.
However, across the entire company, one of our key focuses is always on continual improvement. And we will continue to look for opportunities to make upgrades.
And even as recently as last month weve made some changes in a couple of areas of the country with some of our outside sales representatives who have taken a more significant role in coaching and managing areas near their area of management. And so those sorts of changes will continue.
I dont see any major new sales or marketing expenses that will be necessary in order for us to accomplish our goal, but we never rule out hiring good people when they become available and constantly looking for good people thatll allow us to more quickly accomplish our goals.
And if we had those folks, we would expect them we would expect them to contribute to the top line and pay for themselves.
Kevin Wenck - Polynous Capital Management - Analyst
Okay. An earlier question was inquiring do you how strongly do you still feel about the year over year increase in sales.
But let me ask the question another way. To get to, lets say, $12 million to $13 million a quarter of sales, if you still feel reasonably confident on that for the last half of the year, is that just natural market growth or is that from more effective internal sales execution?
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Well, we are working on increasing the effectiveness of our sales execution. Were also seeing some increased activity recently.
And so while the second half of the year, $12 million and $13 million a quarter is challenging, I think were in a better position than we have been previously to achieve that.
Kevin Wenck - Polynous Capital Management - Analyst
Okay.
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
And its hard for me to answer more specifically, Kevin, as you know, because we have so much volatility in the marketplace. And our quarterly sales results dont always show that because it ends up being buried in various market areas where we see high level activity and then a low level activity.
But that gets offset by other areas which have the opposite. And so thats where were what we believe is going to happen right now but its I cant guarantee that, obviously.
Kevin Wenck - Polynous Capital Management - Analyst
Got one expense question, if Im not wearing out my welcome with questions here. But
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Never.
Kevin Wenck - Polynous Capital Management - Analyst
Thank you. On roughly a $2 million sequential sales increase, SG&A only goes up about $200.000. Is that some indication of potential operating leverage in the future because the earlier discussion of getting up to, lets say, $13 million a quarter of revenues was another, lets say, $2 million increase above the most recent quarter.
So I mean how much incremental SG&A is required to support another $2 million of quarterly revenues?
Neil Wilkin - - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Its not a whole lot and it varies and we have higher expenses sometimes in the second quarter because of our shareholder meetings and other related expenses. We have other things that could fluctuate those expenses from quarter to quarter.
What I would say is the real increases that you would see as we increase sales are sales commissions and shipping costs. And those are relatively small as sales increase.
And I guess the other thing is that we have bonus accruals which have been very limited so far this year given our current results.
Were very careful and the Board has been very careful in designing compensation systems which reward real performance that our shareholders realize and so you see those increases as our performance increases.
Kevin Wenck - Polynous Capital Management - Analyst
So what I feel like Im hearing from that is its possible that on another $2 million sequential increase, if you get that on the sales side, that you could see a similar fairly limited sequential increase in SG&A as you had from Q1 to Q2?
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Thats correct. And that was really I mean we demonstrated that and although the gross profit margin was higher in the fourth quarter of 2006, but we demonstrated that in the fourth quarter of 2006.
Kevin Wenck - Polynous Capital Management - Analyst
Okay. Ill get back in the queue since Ive asked quite a few here.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from Russ Silvestri, Skiritai Capital. Please go ahead.
Russ Silvestri - Skiritai Capital - Analyst
Neil, can you hear me?
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
I can. How are you?
Russ Silvestri - Skiritai Capital - Analyst
Im all right. A handful of questions. And you may have mentioned this but I missed it, what was the mix of international versus domestic sales?
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Im going to let Tracy give you that number, second quarter mix.
Tracy Smith - Optical Cable Corp. - VP, CFO
Right. We didnt mention that previously, but Ill have that for you here.
Russ Silvestri - Skiritai Capital - Analyst
And also in that same vein, specialty versus commercial.
Neil Wilkin - - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Were getting the - Tracy is going to give you a precise number on the international versus domestic for the second quarter. Whats that number?
Tracy Smith - Optical Cable Corp. - VP, CFO
For the six month period, the international sales were 28%.
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Generally our international sales are about 25% or so in the first so far this year its been 28%, as Tracy says.
On the commercial versus the specialty markets, the way we divide those markets, commercial is more than 50% of our business, specialty markets are make up the remaining portion of that.
Russ Silvestri - Skiritai Capital - Analyst
Greater than 50%, so its just a little bit over 50% or ?
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
It varies by quarter. Its between 50% and 60%.
Russ Silvestri - Skiritai Capital - Analyst
Okay. And then what was the depreciation?
Tracy Smith - Optical Cable Corp. - VP, CFO
Again
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Well file our 10-Q later today, but Tracys going to get that information for you right now.
Tracy Smith - Optical Cable Corp. - VP, CFO
Again, this is for the six months period. Depreciation was $787,000.
Russ Silvestri - Skiritai Capital - Analyst
Thats for the total six months?
Tracy Smith - Optical Cable Corp. - VP, CFO
Yes.
Russ Silvestri - Skiritai Capital - Analyst
Okay. And then you guys, you dont pay rent or anything like that in terms of your facility, correct?
Neil Wilkin - - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
No, we own the facility. We own about 22 acres of land here near the Roanoke Airport. About 10 of those acres are being used for our parking lot and our facility, which is about 145,000 square feet.
Russ Silvestri - Skiritai Capital - Analyst
Right. So I understand what youre saying in terms of the sales increase and all, but when I look at your business and you look at your assets in particular, are you satisfied with your return on equity?
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
No.
Russ Silvestri - Skiritai Capital - Analyst
And given the fact you own the facility and you had some positive EBITDA so far, Im just wondering what kind of return on equity should investors and shareholders think? I mean it seems like you have this huge asset thats sitting there that youre not getting any credit for.
And theres a multitude of ways that you could utilize that asset or monetize that asset for the shareholders benefit and I was is there any serious discussion that goes on at the Board level in terms of enhancing the return on equity?
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
There is and there has been, although what Ill tell you right now, the Board is more focused on increasing net income and thats what weve been focused on too and we believe the quickest way to do that is increase sales. Return on equity has been less of a measure for us than earnings and share price.
Russ Silvestri - Skiritai Capital - Analyst
And then also in the share buyback you said you hadnt done anything through the end of April
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Not yet.
Russ Silvestri - Skiritai Capital - Analyst
through the end of April and now weve gone through the end of May and were basically in the middle of June. Has the share buyback actually been instituted at this point?
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Its been instituted but we havent we havent made any comment on what weve bought or not bought after April 30th.
Russ Silvestri - Skiritai Capital - Analyst
I guess why not if youve bought stock, this is a public forum, why not mention what you have bought at this point in time?
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Im just not prepared to do that.
Russ Silvestri - Skiritai Capital - Analyst
Okay. And then in terms of driving revenue, what is it that you see could be driving revenue? Is it commercial building or what is it that drives revenue?
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
For us, its a number of different things. Weve targeted many markets. Weve never seen one predictor other than general levels of IT spending that have been good predictors for us. In 2006 we saw the commercial business increase about 24% compared to 2005.
Despite that, our sales were essentially flat. And what the cause for that was because we had military spending essentially cut in half. This year were seeing more strength in some of our specialty markets.
And it really depends on the market where what youll see is it really depends on the market as to whats going to drive that growth.
But if you look at the market overall, theres a demand for increased bandwidth, theres a demand for increased infrastructure and theres also demand for increased capabilities in places where fiber has not been used previously.
And so if you look at the industry reports, what youll see is its slowly copper datacom cables have been have been decreasing in volumes and that fiber datacom cables have been increasing in volumes and that that is that trend is expected to continue for the next several years.
Russ Silvestri - Skiritai Capital - Analyst
So when you talk about increased activity, it sounds in a nutshell its at the enterprise level and its basically that copper to fiber conversion?
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Thats one of the major industry factors. What were also focused on is working on gaining market share by increasing our sales activity. And so were not content to sit back and watch the industry grow and participate in that and while we want to do that, thats not our only method of increasing sales.
I also think its a dangerous way to think of increasing sales because the market is quite competitive.
Russ Silvestri - Skiritai Capital - Analyst
So what would you estimate your market share to be?
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
We havent said specifically, but if you look at KMIs report, were one of the top three manufacturers in the enterprise market with most of the other manufacturers substantially behind us.
So while most of our competitors are much larger than us, if youre looking at the enterprise space, in the U.S. the market size is probably somewhere between $350 million to $500 million and then you also have the international market. So I think thatll give you some sense.
Were positioned very strongly with Corning Cabling systems really being the largest market share holder, Commscope a significant market share holder and us being number two or number three, depending on where Commscope happens to be at the moment.
Russ Silvestri - Skiritai Capital - Analyst
Are you gaining share or losing share?
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Its really been its really been steady. We havent seen a significant increase or a significant decrease in market share.
Russ Silvestri - Skiritai Capital - Analyst
And then you also talked about I mean I look at the cycle time, is there any other efficiencies or metrics that youre using where, you talked about how youve reduced your inventory and your efficiency is going up, that you can point to and a specific metric that youve improved by whatever, 10% or 15%.
Other than I look at your receivables, payables and inventory, is there anything else that you guys are using internally?
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
As far as a metric for increased efficiency?
Russ Silvestri - Skiritai Capital - Analyst
Correct.
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
We have a whole host of metrics that our operations folks use to measure efficiency and including various calculations against direct labor hours and fiber meters and cable meters produced and so theres a whole host that we look at. We look at lead times, we look at on-time delivery rates, and so theres no one metric we look at.
Overall and externally what were focused on is at this point, particularly since weve were coming to the point that weve completed really the lions share of the upgrades that weve intended to make, the focus right now is increasing the sales dollars and increasing net income. And thats what the management team is laser focused on.
Russ Silvestri - Skiritai Capital - Analyst
Okay, but I guess maybe it might be helpful for us in the public world if there was a metric that you use to measure you think is the best measure for you at the corporate level to share with us you can demonstrate the progress thats being made.
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Okay, well, well give that some consideration. The other metric thats useful obviously is gross profit margin.
Russ Silvestri - Skiritai Capital - Analyst
Yes. But thats a mix and that seems like more like a mix issue than an efficiency issue.
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Well, thats true. That can its impacted by mix too, I agree. Okay. And well give that consideration, but I dont have a metric to share with you today on that.
Russ Silvestri - Skiritai Capital - Analyst
Well, we have our own, but anyway, I appreciate the time, Neil. Thank you.
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
You said you have your own?
Russ Silvestri - Skiritai Capital - Analyst
Yes, well, basically looking at receivables, inventories and payables and look at the cycle time and how fast it youre able to cycle the product
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Okay.
Russ Silvestri - Skiritai Capital - Analyst
and get paid for it in terms of cash cycle.
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Thats really sort of a return measure. One of the things that we havent really focused on because so much of our business is focused on service, weve been less concerned about trying to increase the velocity of our assets as we have been focused on increasing earnings.
Russ Silvestri - Skiritai Capital - Analyst
My point is you have too much assets for the sales that you have. It just doesnt support it and if you took out a loan on the facility and dividended that back to the shareholders and reduced your equity, return on equity, if you do grow your sales like you expect to
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Right.
Russ Silvestri - Skiritai Capital - Analyst
its going to be nice. And theres a lot of hidden value thats sitting in your balance sheet that could be paid out to shareholders and returned to shareholders.
And I just hope that you guys see that and utilize it. I understand that you are trying to grow sales and net income and balance sheet improvements and better utilization of the balance sheet will come later. But
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Right. And weve always we have looked at that, we have discussed that, and well continue to look at that. Youll remember that we also have some strategic initiatives that weve been focused on and so right now weve been weve preferred to keep that financial flexibility. I understand
Russ Silvestri - Skiritai Capital - Analyst
Your job
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
I understand exactly
Russ Silvestri - Skiritai Capital - Analyst
is to do more sales this year than last year. I mean you basically have told us. Now do it.
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Yes. Thank you, Russ.
Russ Silvestri - Skiritai Capital - Analyst
Bye-bye.
Operator
Thank you. (OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS)
Our next question is a follow-up from Kevin Wenck of Polynous Capital Management. Please go ahead.
Kevin Wenck - Polynous Capital Management - Analyst
Neil, Russ raised the gross margin issue but another way of approaching that is from a lot of the internal system improvements. What is the potential at some point in the future for improving the gross margins?
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
We believe we havent quantified that specifically, but we think weve seen the results of that when you compare the first half of last year to the first half of this year.
Kevin Wenck - Polynous Capital Management - Analyst
Okay.
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
As he correctly points out, you also have issues of product mix and in addition to that, within cost of goods sold, while most of those costs are material costs, you also have a number of fixed costs.
And so the higher the sales are, you can positively impact your gross profit margin percentage by increasing sales and spreading those fixed costs over larger sales dollars.
And so I dont have a I dont have a percentage that I can say this is how much were going to increase gross profit margin by as part of our system. We just know that were seeing benefits of that and that was demonstrated so far this year compared to last year.
Kevin Wenck - Polynous Capital Management - Analyst
I mean in Q4
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
similar sales volumes.
Kevin Wenck - Polynous Capital Management - Analyst
I mean in Q4 of last year, which I think was helped by, if my memory, from a somewhat more positive mix, but on $12.5 million of sales youre at a 37.5% gross margin.
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Exactly right.
Kevin Wenck - Polynous Capital Management - Analyst
Is that a fair number for $12.5 million of sales now that youre further along in some of the internal improvements or is it going to be depend still a lot on mix in any particular quarter?
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
So much of it depends on mix in any particular quarter. What I would tell you is what I would tell you is 35% to 37% is what we are targeting.
Kevin Wenck - Polynous Capital Management - Analyst
Okay, so even
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
I dont feel comfortable promising because theres so many factors, particularly when youre talking our sales are not our business is based on sales over of a wide variety of products with various different margins to various different industries and a huge number of customers.
So its very different than the bulk of some of our competitors who are selling into the long haul telco market or to the fiber-to-the-home market where theyre talking about two or three customers and or a handful of customers and they have a very well defined prediction of what their sales are going to be and what their margins are going to be.
And so while I can give you that range and as you start to pin me down, I feel a little bit uncomfortable, not because not because I see the issue and Im not uncomfortable because I dont think its achievable. Im uncomfortable because I dont want to promise it to you and then not be able to achieve it because its outside of my control.
Kevin Wenck - Polynous Capital Management - Analyst
Well, I know youre
Kevin Wenck - Polynous Capital Management - Analyst
Yes, your mix can change quite a bit from quarter to quarter and
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Right. What was interesting in the fourth quarter, as we talked about at that time, is while we may have benefited from some mix, there werent the significant mix issues or positive mix issues that we have sometimes seen swing our gross profit margins significantly.
What was interesting about the fourth quarter was we did not have any one large order that we could point to or any one large project or high margin customer or margin business that we could really say thats the reason why that margin improved in the fourth quarter. So I saw that as very positive.
And thats the reason why Im saying were targeting that 35% to 37% and wed love for it to be even higher and well continue to look at ways we can achieve that.
But as youre drilling down and youre its appropriate for you to do so, what youre hearing from me is I dont feel comfortable promising you that as we go to $12.5 million or $13 million that our margins are going to be 37%.
Kevin Wenck - Polynous Capital Management - Analyst
Okay.
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
I mean thats the reason for my hesitancy just quite honestly.
Kevin Wenck - Polynous Capital Management - Analyst
Okay. One final question and it does look like youre making progress on a lot of your initiatives and eventually were going to see some earnings leverage out of it, but as you know, there was a publicly announced offer for the company at $6 a share.
In my own opinion, for you to get to $6 a share on the stock market youre probably going to have to be, lets say, 15 times earnings, which if you back that out is $0.40 a year, which is, lets say, $0.10 a quarter, in simplistic terms.
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Its 15 times a PE ratio of 15 is a little low for our industry.
Kevin Wenck - Polynous Capital Management - Analyst
Well, youre also have some small company discount possibly, some operating variability risk and so but I guess we can talk about an appropriate multiple all day long, but heres where Im going with this.
To get to roughly, lets say, $0.10 a quarter of earnings, lets say sales need to be somewhere $14 million, $15 million a quarter, gross margins probably need to be in about the middle of the range of the 35% to 37% that you just mentioned, and SG&A needs to have the continual leverage the way weve already discussed on the call.
I mean is $14 million, $15 million a quarter visible to you anytime in the foreseeable future? I know the worlds a complex place, but what are your thoughts between market growth, better marketing and sales execution, and then possibly some other internal initiatives to getting you up to the $14 million, $15 million a quarter.
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Well, a couple of different comments and Im going to get to your you framed the question very precisely. Im going to get at it a little bit different way and then Ill come back to your point.
$6 a share is not significantly above book value. Its also not reflective of the capabilities that OCC has and that weve invested in.
The reason why we had an offer like that and the reason why if we would go out and start canvassing other folks in the industry, I bet you we could generate a lot more offers, is specifically because of the capabilities we have, the loyalty, customer loyalty we have and the position we have in the marketplace. And while manufacturing fiber optic cable on the surface, if youve and, Kevin, I believe youve
Kevin Wenck - Polynous Capital Management - Analyst
Ive been in
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
been in our plant. On the surface, it doesnt look quite very complex. But the reality is the controls that we have in place to manufacture our cable to our specifications are very precise and while the actual process seems simple, the number of variables that go into manufacturing a cable that can withstand the sorts of things that our cable withstands is incredibly complex.
Our new machine controls, for example, have about 250 variables that we control in order to manufacture our cable just in one process.
In other words, thats just on one machine, one pass-through. And as you know, our cable, as part of the manufacturing process, runs through multiple machines multiple times.
Thats a capability because of the thermodynamics involved, the physics involved, the material complexities that are involved that can create a lot of variability and the reason why weve been able to do such a good job at particularly manufacturing harsh environment cable and the cable for the U.S. military.
And so the value that OCC has to someone else is way above $6 a share, no matter how you look at it.
Kevin Wenck - Polynous Capital Management - Analyst
Well, I guess one follow-up
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Its but I understand what youre saying. What I would say, though, is that I think your PE going back to your question, I think that the PE multiple that youve mentioned I think is a little bit low.
But I think youd agree, if we were able to deliver what we did in the fourth quarter on a consistent basis, then our price would be way above $6 a share.
Kevin Wenck - Polynous Capital Management - Analyst
Well, given that you mentioned that if you chose to go out in the market you could probably solicit other offers, what do you believe is a fair value for the company?
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
I cant really say. Thats not appropriate for me to say in this kind of forum, Kevin. But I appreciate the I appreciate your I appreciate your question.
But thats the reason but I think what Ive just said gives you some reason as to why we were so quick to reject $6 a share.
Kevin Wenck - Polynous Capital Management - Analyst
Okay.
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
I dont think that that was I dont think that was a fair offer. It was interesting; in the industry you got different reactions.
When we talked to major shareholders they asked that the sophisticated shareholders are asking some of the questions you are; where are you how long is it going to take you to improve, when are you going to be leveraging these investments you make and all those sorts of things. But at the same time they recognize that $6 a share was just a completely inadequate offer.
The other thing that seemed apparent, at least by some, and when you go out in the industry you can get all sorts of different opinions, but who you partner with is very important too. And the reaction we got from some of our customers was that pairing wouldnt have made any sense.
Kevin Wenck - Polynous Capital Management - Analyst
Okay.
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
And so I think so thats my reaction. I think that I think that given what were doing in the cable business right now, we have visibility to creating that additional shareholder value.
And remember also, we have been looking at the strategic initiatives which we think will further increase our value, including some of the work weve done and the accomplishments and work thats been done by the connector startup company that we have been working with.
And so once you start adding those, if we proceed with that company in a significant way then youd need to be taking OCC sales, adding on those sales plus looking at are there other opportunities for OCC to expand its product line and then you start seeing some real value thats above and beyond even whats visible today and what were speaking to today.
Kevin Wenck - Polynous Capital Management - Analyst
Oh, the startup connector company, what is their quarterly sales run rate at this point?
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
We havent talked about their quarterly sales, but weve said in our disclosures that their annual sales are about what percent of ours, Tracy?
Tracy Smith - Optical Cable Corp. - VP, CFO
Well
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Its in our 10-Q.
Tracy Smith - Optical Cable Corp. - VP, CFO
Just a minute. I dont want to give you the wrong information.
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Of course, thats a different business too, so you have a little bit different thats not you cant just add those sales onto our sales and get the same leverage because theres also cost of goods sold associated with what theyre doing.
Kevin Wenck - Polynous Capital Management - Analyst
Yes.
Tracy Smith - Optical Cable Corp. - VP, CFO
Their revenue the revenue as a percentage of our revenue was approximately 4.7%.
Kevin Wenck - Polynous Capital Management - Analyst
Okay, well, thank
Tracy Smith - Optical Cable Corp. - VP, CFO
for the three month period. For the six month period, approximately 6.9%.
Kevin Wenck - Polynous Capital Management - Analyst
Okay. Thanks, Tracy. Thanks, Neil.
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Thanks, Kevin.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from Richard Dearnley of Longport Partners. Please go ahead.
Richard Dearnley - Longport Partners - Analyst
Good morning. What is you said your business is quite scalable. Whats your plant utilization roughly speaking, in terms of both the physical plant and then the labor?
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
We said in the what weve said in our in our most recently filed 10-K is that we were about 60% and maybe 65%, but around 60% as far as physical plant capacity. We operate on two shifts, two 12-hour shifts with flexible time within those two shifts five days a week. Our night shift is not completely utilized.
If youre looking at what our physical labor capacity is, and that number would not be the right number, you would have an increase in labor costs and but what I can tell you, as with any cable manufacturer, direct labor is a relatively small portion of the overall cost of goods sold of manufacturing a product.
Richard Dearnley - Longport Partners - Analyst
Right. Okay, thank you.
Operator
Thank you. There appears to be no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the floor back to Mr. Siegel for any closing comments.
Andrew Siegel - Joele Frank, Wilkinson Brimmer Katcher - IR
Thank you. Neil, we did have one question submitted in advance by an individual shareholder.
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Okay.
Andrew Siegel - Joele Frank, Wilkinson Brimmer Katcher - IR
A shareholder named Bruce Winter asked if you could summarize each element of your current strategy and discuss your timeframe to execute on that strategy. And he also asked about potential changes to the current strategy.
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Okay. We go through a strategic plan each year, the Board does and the management team does. We budget out we budget out for the coming year as well as for two years past that. And theres a fair amount of detail that goes into those elements of the strategy.
So Im not going to go into that element by element, plus I think that we dont want to we dont to put ourselves at a competitive disadvantage by discussing things that our competitors would use against us as by answering it.
But what I will say is, and this is really summarized down, theres three I see three basic components to our strategy. And the first has been to build our capabilities.
We have spent a lot of time and a lot of money and a lot of effort upgrading our capabilities, systems, facilities, manufacturing, equipment, personnel, engineering capabilities, ability to develop new products and as were entering as were finishing as we finish 2007, most of those initiatives to a large extent are completed or substantially done. Well always have continuing upgrades. One of our focuses is continual improvement.
But were coming to the point where were going to see the benefit of those investments and thats one part of our strategy. As far as timing, Id say thats were coming to the point that thats substantially complete.
The second is focusing on targeted markets without neglecting the commercial market. In other words, we want to continue to grow in the commercial market but we have products that are differentiable from our competitors and those differentiating factors are particularly valuable in certain applications and in certain markets that we have targeted in which we have special capabilities in. And were continuing to focus on those in order to assist growing our sales.
There are certain parts of the fiber optic cable business that are commodity business. Theres certain parts that are not.
And we will continue to be competitive in the portions that are more commodity-like but at the same time making sure that we use our features and benefits of our products and our ability to differentiate our products and to provide better customized service to our customers to grow our sales and compete successfully against our competitors.
And the final broad category of our strategy is our strategic initiatives. And that includes the investment that weve made in the startup connector company.
We took we looked at the market, we saw that there was some consolidation in some of those channels that we originally did business and didnt want to be left out in the cold.
We continue to cultivate the existing partnerships but also invested in this company as a way of maintaining our ability to control our own destiny. Their specialties are military and harsh environment, which fits very well in what we do.
And then in addition to that strategic initiative, we have others that we have been working on and theyre in various stages. And those Im not going into a lot of detail on, but those essentially are the three major components of our strategy in a very summarized way.
I think that the and Ive talked about it, I think, sufficiently what were doing to make sure those are completed and when we think theyll be completed.
Andrew Siegel - Joele Frank, Wilkinson Brimmer Katcher - IR
Okay, Neil. Well, we have no further questions from shareholders today.
Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corp. - Chairman, President, CEO
Great. Well, I appreciate everyone joining us on the call today. We always have good questions. I know that we have a relatively small group that participates live on the call, but we always have very good questions.
I appreciate those participating and asking those good questions. And we appreciate your interest in Optical Cable and were working diligently to make sure that you realize an appropriate return on your investment in the Company. Our management teams incented that way and thats what our focus is.
Thank you for joining us and well continue to work hard for you.
Operator
Thank you. This concludes todays Optical Cable Corp. conference call. You may now disconnect.