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UNITED STATES

SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION

Washington, D.C. 20549

 


 

FORM 8-K

 


 

Current Report

 

Pursuant to Section 13 or 15(d) of the

Securities Exchange Act of 1934

 

Date of Report (Date of earliest event reported): March 10, 2015

 


 

OPTICAL CABLE CORPORATION

(Exact name of registrant as specified in its charter)

 


 

         

Virginia

 

000-27022

 

54-1237042

(State or other jurisdiction of

incorporation or organization)

 

(Commission

File Number)

 

(I.R.S. Employer

Identification Number)

   

5290 Concourse Drive

Roanoke, VA

 

24019

(Address of principal executive offices)

 

(Zip Code)

 

(540) 265-0690

(Registrant’s telephone number, including area code)

 


 Check the appropriate box below if the Form 8-K filing is intended to simultaneously satisfy the filing obligation of the registrant under any of the following provisions (see General Instruction A.2. below):

 

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Table of Contents 

         

Item 2.02 Results of Operations and Financial Condition

3

     
   

Item 9.01 Financial Statements and Exhibits

3

     
   

Signatures

4

     
   

Exhibits

       

 

 

Item 2.02 Results of Operations and Financial Condition

 

On March 10, 2015, Optical Cable Corporation issued a press release announcing its first quarter of fiscal year 2015 financial results. Also on March 10, 2015, Optical Cable Corporation held an earnings call. The press release is attached hereto as Exhibit 99.1 and the transcript for the earnings call is attached as Exhibit 99.2.

 

 

 

Item 9.01 Financial Statements and Exhibits

 

(d) Exhibits

 

The following is filed as an Exhibit to this Report.

 

     

Exhibit No.

  

Description of Exhibit

   

99.1

 

99.2

  

Press Release dated March 10, 2015 (FILED HEREWITH)

 

Transcript of earnings call on March 10, 2015 (FILED HEREWITH)

 

 

SIGNATURES

 

Pursuant to the requirements of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, the registrant has duly caused this report to be signed on its behalf by the undersigned hereunto duly authorized.

 

       

OPTICAL CABLE CORPORATION

     
 

By:

 

/s/ TRACY G. SMITH

 

Name:

 

Tracy G. Smith

 

Title:

 

Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dated: March 12, 2015

 

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ex99-1.htm

Exhibit 99.1

 

OPTICAL CABLE CORPORATION

5290 Concourse Drive

Roanoke, VA 24019

(Nasdaq GM: OCC)

www.occfiber.com

 

AT THE COMPANY:   
   
Neil Wilkin Tracy Smith
Chairman, President & CEO Senior Vice President & CFO
(540) 265-0690 (540) 265-0690
investorrelations@occfiber.com investorrelations@occfiber.com
   
AT JOELE FRANK, WILKINSON BRIMMER KATCHER:  
   
Andrew Siegel  Aaron Palash
(212) 355-4449 ext. 127 (212) 355-4449 ext. 103
occ-jfwbk@joelefrank.com occ-jfwbk@joelefrank.com

 

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 

 

OPTICAL CABLE CORPORATION REPORTS

FIRST QUARTER 2015 FINANCIAL RESULTS

 

ROANOKE, VA, March 10, 2015 — Optical Cable Corporation (Nasdaq GM: OCC) (“OCC®” or the “Company”) today announced financial results for its fiscal first quarter ended January 31, 2015.

 

First Quarter 2015 Financial Results

 

Consolidated net sales for the first quarter of fiscal year 2015 increased 5.0% to $17.4 million, compared to net sales of $16.5 million for the first quarter of fiscal year 2014. OCC increased net sales in its commercial markets during the first quarter of fiscal year 2015; however, this increase was partially offset by decreases in net sales in certain of the Company’s specialty markets.

 

Net sales to customers in the United States increased 11.9% in the first quarter of fiscal year 2015, compared to the same period last year, and net sales to customers outside of the United States decreased 14.0%.

 

Gross profit for each of the first quarters of fiscal years 2015 and 2014 was $5.4 million. Gross profit margin, or gross profit as a percentage of net sales, was 31.0% in the first quarter of fiscal 2015, compared to 32.7% in the first quarter of fiscal 2014.

 

OCC recorded a net loss attributable to the Company of $228,000, or $0.04 per basic and diluted share, for the first quarter of fiscal year 2015, compared to a net loss of $412,000, or $0.07 per basic and diluted share, for the first quarter of fiscal year 2014.

 

 
 

 

 

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Management's Comments

 

Neil Wilkin, President and Chief Executive Officer of OCC, said, “During our fiscal first quarter, we achieved positive sales growth in the United States and positive operating cash flow from operations. Although our fiscal first quarter results reflect typical seasonality and continued challenges in certain overseas markets, we increased sales by five percent on a year over year basis and continue to see increased demand for our comprehensive product offerings and solutions. In addition, we are now realizing the benefits of the restructuring initiatives we completed at the end of last year, and we will continue to focus on operating efficiently to further reduce SG&A expenses and drive profitable growth.”

 

Mr. Wilkin continued, “OCC maintains a strong balance sheet and remains committed to returning capital to shareholders. During the fiscal first quarter, in addition to distributing the quarterly cash dividend, the Company completed the share repurchase program previously authorized by the Board. We continue to introduce strong, innovative communication solutions that we expect will be well received by our customers and end-users, and will create further value for OCC shareholders.”

 

Conference Call Information

 

As previously announced, OCC will host a conference call today, March 10, 2015, at 10:00 a.m. Eastern Time. Individuals wishing to participate in the conference call should call (866) 610-1072 or (973) 935-2840. For interested individuals unable to join the call, a replay will be available through March 17, 2015, by dialing (800) 585-8367 or (404) 537-3406, pass code 9835454. The call will also be broadcast live over the Internet and can be accessed by visiting the investor relations section of the Company’s website at www.occfiber.com.

 

Company Information

 

Optical Cable Corporation (“OCC®”) is a leading manufacturer of a broad range of fiber optic and copper data communication cabling and connectivity solutions primarily for the enterprise market (or non-carrier market), offering an integrated suite of high quality products which operate as a system solution or seamlessly integrate with other providers’ offerings. OCC’s product offerings include designs for uses ranging from commercial, enterprise network, datacenter, residential and campus installations to customized products for specialty applications and harsh environments, including military, industrial, mining, petrochemical, wireless carrier and broadcast applications. OCC products include fiber optic and copper cabling, fiber optic and copper connectors, specialty fiber optic and copper connectors, fiber optic and copper patch cords, pre-terminated fiber optic and copper cable assemblies, racks, cabinets, datacom enclosures, fiber optic and copper patch panels, face plates, multi-media boxes, fiber optic reels and accessories and other cable and connectivity management accessories. OCC products are designed to meet the most demanding needs of end-users, delivering a high degree of reliability and outstanding performance characteristics. 

 

OCC® is internationally recognized for pioneering the design and production of fiber optic cables for the most demanding military field applications, as well as of fiber optic cables suitable for both indoor and outdoor use, and creating a broad product offering built on the evolution of these fundamental technologies. OCC also is internationally recognized for its role in establishing copper connectivity data communications standards, through its innovative and patented technologies.

 

 
 

 

 

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Founded in 1983, OCC is headquartered in Roanoke, Virginia with offices, manufacturing and warehouse facilities located in each of Roanoke, Virginia, near Asheville, North Carolina and near Dallas, Texas. OCC’s facilities are ISO 9001:2008 registered and OCC’s Roanoke and Dallas facilities are MIL-STD-790F certified.

 

Optical Cable Corporation, OCC®, Procyon®, Superior Modular Products, SMP Data Communications, Applied Optical Systems, and associated logos are trademarks of Optical Cable Corporation.

 

Further information about OCC® is available at www.occfiber.com.

 

FORWARD-LOOKING INFORMATION

 

This news release by Optical Cable Corporation and its subsidiaries (collectively, the “Company” or “OCC”) may contain certain forward-looking information within the meaning of the federal securities laws. The forward-looking information may include, among other information, (i) statements concerning our outlook for the future, (ii) statements of belief, anticipation or expectation, (iii) future plans, strategies or anticipated events, and (iv) similar information and statements concerning matters that are not historical facts. Such forward-looking information is subject to known and unknown variables, uncertainties, contingencies and risks that may cause actual events or results to differ materially from our expectations, and such known and unknown variables, uncertainties, contingencies and risks may also adversely affect Optical Cable Corporation and its subsidiaries, the Company’s future results of operations and future financial condition, and/or the future equity value of the Company. A partial list of such variables, uncertainties, contingencies and risks that could cause or contribute to such differences from our expectations or that could otherwise adversely affect Optical Cable Corporation and its subsidiaries is set forth in Optical Cable Corporation’s quarterly and annual reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission (“SEC”) under the heading “Forward-Looking Information.” OCC’s quarterly and annual reports are available to the public on the SEC’s website at http://www.sec.gov. In providing forward-looking information, the Company expressly disclaims any obligation to update this information, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise except as required by applicable laws and regulations.

 

(Financial Tables Follow)

 

 
 

 

 

Optical Cable Corp. – First Quarter 2015 Earnings Release

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OPTICAL CABLE CORPORATION

Condensed CONSOLIDATED Statements OF OPERATIONS

(thousands, except per share data)

(unaudited)

 


 

    Three Months Ended  
    January 31,  
                 
   

2015

   

2014

 
                 

Net sales

  $ 17,359     $ 16,535  

Cost of goods sold

    11,974       11,127  
                 

Gross profit

    5,385       5,408  
                 

SG&A expenses

    5,720       6,046  

Royalty expense, net

    56       30  

Amortization of intangible assets

    3       9  
                 

Loss from operations

    (394 )     (677 )
                 

Interest expense, net

    (102 )     (113 )

Other, net

    (2 )     22  

Other expense, net

    (104 )     (91 )
                 

Loss before income taxes

    (498 )     (768 )
                 

Income tax benefit

    (246 )     (324 )
                 

Net loss

  $ (252 )   $ (444 )
                 

Net loss attributable to noncontrolling interest

    (24 )     (32 )
                 

Net loss attributable to OCC

  $ (228 )   $ (412 )
                 

Net loss attributable to OCC per share: Basic and diluted

  $ (0.04 )   $ (0.07 )
                 

Weighted average shares outstanding:

               

Basic and diluted

    6,277       6,014  
                 

Cash dividends declared per common share

  $ 0.02     $ 0.02  

 

 

--MORE--

 

 
 

 

 

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OPTICAL CABLE CORPORATION

CONDENSED CONSOLIDATED BALANCE SHEET DATA

(thousands)

(unaudited)

 


 

    January 31,     October 31,  
    2015     2014  
                 

Cash

  $ 689     $ 1,090  

Trade accounts receivable, net

    9,054       14,076  

Inventories

    18,403       17,518  

Other current assets

    2,747       2,693  

Total current assets

    30,893       35,377  

Non-current assets

    15,137       14,662  

Total assets

  $ 46,030     $ 50,039  
                 

Current liabilities

  $ 5,598     $ 9,302  

Non-current liabilities

    10,750       10,431  

Total liabilities

    16,348       19,733  

Total shareholders’ equity attributable to OCC

    30,406       31,006  

Noncontrolling interest

    (724 )     (700 )

Total shareholders’ equity

    29,682       30,306  

Total liabilities and shareholders’ equity

  $ 46,030     $ 50,039  

 

 

 

 

 

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ex99-2.htm

Exhibit 99.2

 

 

 

 
 

 

 

 

CORPORATE PARTICIPANTS

 

Andrew Siegel Joele Frank, Wilkinson, Brimmer, Katcher - Investor Relations

 

Neil Wilkin Optical Cable Corporation - Chairman of the Board, President and Chief Executive Officer

 

Tracy Smith Optical Cable Corporation - Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

 

 

CONFERENCE CALL PARTICIPANTS

 

Mark Franklin Wells Fargo - Analyst

 

 

PRESENTATION

 


Operator 

 

Good morning. My name is Lori and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Optical Cable Corporation’s first quarter 2015 earnings conference call.

 

(Operator Instructions)

 

Thank you.

 

Mr. Siegel, you may begin your conference.

 


Andrew Siegel - Joele Frank, Wilkinson, Brimmer, Katcher - Investor Relations

 

Thanks, Lori. Good morning and thank you all for participating on Optical Cable Corporation's first quarter of fiscal year 2015 conference call. By this time, everyone should have a copy of the earnings press release issued earlier today. If you don't have it, please visit occfiber.com for a copy. On the call with us today is Neil Wilkin, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer of OCC and Tracy Smith, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.

 

Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that this call may contain forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties. The actual future results of Optical Cable Corporation may differ materially due to a number of factors and risks, including, but not limited to, those factors referenced in the “forward-looking statements” section of this morning's press release. These cautionary statements apply to the contents of the Internet webcast on occfiber.com as well as today's call.

 

Now, I'll turn the call over to Neil Wilkin. Neil, please begin.

 

Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corporation - Chairman of the Board, President and Chief Executive Officer

 

Thank you, and good morning, everyone. I will begin today's call with a few opening remarks. Tracy will then review the first quarter results for the three-month period ended January 31, 2015, in more detail. After Tracy's remarks, we will answer some questions. And as is our normal practice, we will only take questions from analysts and institutional investors during the Q&A session. We also offer other shareholders the opportunity to submit questions in advance of our earnings call. Instructions regarding such submissions are included in our press releases announcing the date and time of our earnings call.

 

During the first quarter of 2015, we achieved increased top-line growth with a 5% increase in net sales when compared to the same quarter last year. We are pleased with these positive sales results, and believe they reflect the underlying strength of our business. Our first quarter results reflect typical seasonality, so we believe we'll continue to see increased demand for our comprehensive product offerings and solutions during the latter part of the year. Additionally, we are now realizing the benefits of the reorganization initiatives implemented during the latter part of fiscal year 2014. We continue to focus on operating efficiencies in an effort to control SG&A expenses and drive profitable growth.

 

We continue to introduce strong, innovative communications solutions that we expect will be well received by our customers and end userswith many of our new products and new product development efforts focused on expanding our connectivity product lines and solutions. A couple of examples of our new product offerings include OCC's family of passive optical LAN products, as well as OCC's new Procyon Blade system of spliced modules and enclosuresa system which simplifies fiber splicing in high density networks.

 

We believe our new products will create further value for OCC shareholders and will build upon OCC's role as a market leader, enabling us to capitalize on additional growth opportunities and utilize our operating leverage.

 

 
 

 

 

OCC also continues to invest in expanding our manufacturing capabilities in areas of expected growth. During the year ended October 31, 2014, we spent approximately $2.1 million to add additional manufacturing capabilities. During our 2015 fiscal year budgeting process, we included an estimate for capital expenditures of $5.5 million, although individual projects are reviewed and approved during the year based on a variety of factors.

 

Our balance sheet remains strong, and we continue to deliver value to our shareholders through our regular quarterly dividend of $0.02 per share, implying an annual dividend rate of $0.08 per share. During the first quarter of fiscal 2015, we also completed the share repurchase program previously authorized by the Board of Directors. Under this most recent share repurchase program, OCC repurchased and retired a total of 320,000 shares. We anticipate the Board of Directors will consider a new plan to purchase and retire additional shares of our common stock during fiscal year 2015 after considering expected capital expenditures and other cash needs.

 

While we continue to see some macroeconomic weakness in some of our markets, particularly in the international markets, we are confident that we have the right strategies in place to drive growth, and we will continue our efforts to improve our financial performance and enhance value for shareholders.

 

And with that, I'll turn the call over to Tracy Smith, who will review some of the specifics regarding our first quarter of fiscal year 2015.

 


Tracy Smith - Optical Cable Corporation - Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

  

Thank you, Neil. The Company achieved consolidated net sales of $17.4 million during the first quarter of fiscal year 2015, compared to net sales of $16.5 million for the same period last year. We experienced an increase in net sales in our commercial markets in the first quarter of fiscal 2015, compared to the same period last year, but this increase was partially offset by decreases in net sales in certain of our specialty markets.

 

Sales to customers in the United States increased 11.9% in the first quarter of fiscal year 2015, compared to last year, while net sales to customers outside of the United States decreased 14%, compared to the same period last year.

 

Gross profit for each of the first quarters of fiscal years 2015 and 2014 was $5.4 million. Gross profit margin, or gross profit as a percentage of net sales, was 31% in the first quarter of fiscal 2015, compared to 32.7% in the first quarter of fiscal 2014. Our gross profit margin percentages are heavily dependent upon product mix on a quarterly basis and may vary based on changes in product mix. The slightly lower gross profit margin in the first quarter of fiscal 2015 when compared to the same period last year was primarily due to an increase in sales of certain products that negatively impacted our gross profit margin.

 

SG&A expenses decreased 5.4% to $5.7 million, compared to $6 million for the same period last year. SG&A expenses as a percentage of net sales were 33% in the first quarter of fiscal 2015, compared to 36.6% in the first quarter of fiscal year 2014. The decrease in SG&A expenses was primarily due to decreased employee related costs largely as a result of the reorganization initiatives implemented during the latter part of fiscal 2014.

 

For the first quarter of fiscal year 2015, we reported a net loss attributable to OCC of $228,000, or $0.04 per basic and diluted share, compared to a net loss of $412,000, or $0.07 per basic and diluted share, for the same period last year.

 

OCC purchased and retired 79,036 shares of common stock during the first quarter of fiscal 2015 at an average price of $4.73 per share, completing the previously approved stock repurchase program.

 

The Company declared regular quarterly dividends to shareholders totaling $0.02 per share during the first quarter of fiscal year 2015.

 

As of January 31, 2015, we had outstanding borrowings of $3 million on our revolving credit facility and $5.8 million in available credit. We also had outstanding loan balances of $7.4 million under our real estate term loans as of January 31, 2015.

 

With that, I'll turn the call back over to Neil.

 

Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corporation - Chairman of the Board, President and Chief Executive Officer

 

Thank you, Tracy. And now, we're happy to answer some questions. Operator, if you could please indicate the instructions for participants to call in any questions they may have, I'd appreciate it.

 

QUESTION AND ANSWER

 

 


Operator 

 

(Operator Instructions) Your first question comes from the line of Mark Franklin of Wells Fargo.

 

 
 

 

 


Mark Franklin - Wells Fargo - Analyst

 

I just have a question about your share count. It's kind of confusing. I'm looking at the 10-K, which indicated shares outstanding of 6.8 million. And then your share count on your press release shows 6.3 million for the quarter ended, or average shares for the quarter ended, just ended versus 6.0 million year ago. So none of that makes sense to me.

 

Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corporation - Chairman of the Board, President and Chief Executive Officer


 

I would agree with you, and the reason is it's an accounting convention, which Tracy can explain the details to you, but essentially, where you need to get our proper share count is from our balance sheet, so the number that you're looking at is the number of shares outstanding used for the calculation of earnings per share, and whenever we are in a loss per share situation, any unvested restricted shares, even if they're outstanding, if they're not completely vested, even though they're already outstanding for all other purposes, because they're subject to clawback, GAAP requires that those numbers, those shares be excluded from the share count for purposes of earnings per share calculation. And so, you'll see some variations. If you're looking at our income statement, particularly over a number of years or different quarters, you'll see some pretty big swings in our earnings per share outstanding, but that is not what's actually happening. It actually then -- so does that answer your question?

 


Mark Franklin - Wells Fargo - Analyst

 

Well, yes, somewhat, but I'd have to -- I guess, I have to dig into your K, your 10-K, and try to understand how that all works with investing and that sort of thing.

 


Tracy Smith - Optical Cable Corporation - Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

 

Actually, if you look at the footnote -- hopefully, we'll be filing our 10-Q later today, and you can look at the footnote, and that'll help explain it to you, I think.

 


Mark Franklin - Wells Fargo - Analyst

 

Okay, so I'll check the Q later today or tomorrow, and I can figure out better, make it clearer. And just another question about -- do you think the foreign -- your foreign sales will pick up because of the Mario Draghi's QE thing that's just beginning in Europe. Is that where you think there's a possibility of a pickup in sales abroad?

 

Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corporation - Chairman of the Board, President and Chief Executive Officer

 

I'm sorry. I didn't hear. I didn't catch you. What in Europe?

 


Mark Franklin - Wells Fargo - Analyst

 

I think you mentioned in the press release that your non-US sales were slow in the first quarter, and that I forget what percentage is accrued from the Eurozone. But it would appear that the Eurozone is picking up somewhat economically from what I read in the Journal and as well as Japan, if you sell there, I don't know if you have any business -- how much business you have in Far East. Do you see any signs of pickup where your business has been weak in the non-US markets?

 

Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corporation - Chairman of the Board, President and Chief Executive Officer


 

We are seeing some opportunities in the Eurozone internationally because the dollar has been a little bit stronger. That's created some pressure on exports as, I think it has for some other companies as well. And so I don't see that as a permanent issue. We sell fairly diversely internationally. And so not only are we selling into the Eurozone, but we also sell in Latin America as well as Australia and the Asia-Pacific region. And so, we're fairly diversified.

 

We've talked about this a little bit before. OCC's product offering is very broad and is subject to a fair amount of volatility once you get past the top line. We have our normal seasonality, but then we have a lot of volatility. But we're helped and insulated from that a little bit through our diversification both geographically as well as across customer types, or more accurately, end-user types. So we're selling through distribution, but the number of end-users (inaudible) are significant.

 

So right now, by way of example, we've seen in addition to some weakness internationally, we've seen some weakness in some military markets in certain projects and also seen some weakness in the oil and gas market, but we've also seen strengths in other areas that kind of help make up for those differences. So we're hopeful that we can start to see some growth in Europe and internationally, generally. But I think the strength of the dollar has made that a little bit more difficult as well as the economic -- and not just -- not the strength of the dollar, not just the economic factors and what's going on in those regions.

 

 
 

 

 


Mark Franklin - Wells Fargo - Analyst

 

Okay. And I've been following your company for a couple years now, and I've noticed that Coleman Cable, which was purchased or acquired by some other company years ago, couple years ago, I forget, when I checked their SG&A as a percentage of sales of about 7%, I noticed that General Cable is about 8%, you're around 30%. Could you explain the difference between those two companies and your company in terms of the SG&A percentages to sales?

 

Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corporation - Chairman of the Board, President and Chief Executive Officer


 

A lot of it is scale. So both of those companies are predominantly copper companies and sell in different markets, and there's also a lot more scale there. I think that that's one of the operating leverage points we've talked about at OCC previously that our SG&A expenses are high relative to our sales numbers. But those SG&A numbers as a percentage of sales drop rather significantly as more dollars drop to the bottom line as sales increase.

 

And so one of the things that we're focused on at OCC -- or the main thing we've been focused on at OCC is really increasing sales and adding new products that customers want to drive those sales because as those sales increase, the percentage of SG&A decreases. There's a lot more dollars that drop to the bottom line more quickly. Our margins tend to go up. And because there's only 6.8 million shares outstanding, there's a real opportunity to significantly increase the value of the company. And so, that's what we're focused on.

 

Being a public company and operating in the markets that we operate in, it's difficult for us to reduce that percentage significantly certainly into the rate that you're talking about. So for example, if you're talking about an SG&A rate of 8% or 10%, generally, that's when you start talking about fiber optic sales and sales commissions and certain shipping costs, you're not even covering that when you're talking about those percentages.

 


Mark Franklin - Wells Fargo - Analyst

 

Oh I see. So with respect to getting your sales to grow a little faster, your R&D, what's your R&D budget this year?

 

Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corporation - Chairman of the Board, President and Chief Executive Officer


 

Well, a lot of our -- we haven't separated out a lot of specific R&D because it's more based on customer requirements and on needs. We do have some R&D that we described in our reports that you can see. I don't know the precise number. I don't know if you have it off the top of your head from an R&D perspective.

 

But we've been spending a fair amount of time developing new products, including on the connectivity side, and we've got a bright group of engineers that have been developing new products and also focusing on creating some intellectual property around those products. What we're also focused on doing is investing capex in areas where we're seeing higher demand, our product line is very broad. And again, sometimes you'll see surges in demand in certain types of products, and as those markets change or develop, we're focused on investing in capex, where we believe we can take advantage of those changes.

 

Tracy may have -- give you a little bit of an idea from an R&D perspective at least from our Annual Report, I think.

 


Tracy Smith - Optical Cable Corporation - Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

 

Correct. Well, as Neil mentioned, we don't really talk about the budget for R&D, but our, historically, our R&D has been about $1.4 million -- $1.3 million, $1.4 million for the last several years.

 

Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corporation - Chairman of the Board, President and Chief Executive Officer


 

That's also -- so what you also have to realize though is some of our engineering costs are also included in SG&A, and some of our engineering costs are included in costs of goods sold. And so, of course, the R&D is included in SG&A, but also [you're totally right, they're separated out]. It's separated out on a separate line.

 


Tracy Smith - Optical Cable Corporation - Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

 

 

Those different areas, we don't really disclose that separately, but they are different, depending on what the type of engineering is.

 

Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corporation - Chairman of the Board, President and Chief Executive Officer


 

Right. So some of it's included in cost of goods sold and some of it's included in SG&A. And so that's another reason why you're seeing some SG&A expense.

 

 
 

 

 


Tracy Smith - Optical Cable Corporation - Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

 

The $1.4 million that I'm referring to is included in SG&A.

 


Mark Franklin - Wells Fargo - Analyst

 

 

Okay, so that's just the SG&A part. Okay, good. Interesting, yes. What about in terms of economics of scale, perhaps, there's an opportunity to either acquire or be acquired and get yourself a little more scale. I don't know if there's -- How many other companies around there, smaller or bigger, that would be a good fit? Have there been any opportunities in that regard that might arise?

 

Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corporation - Chairman of the Board, President and Chief Executive Officer


 

Well, there's a number of bigger companies. There's fewer smaller companies. OCC has a strong presence particularly in the fiber optic cable market despite the smaller size. I think what we're focused on is, historically, until this last year, we've seen our stock price increase a little bit relative to I think shareholders understanding the value that's created. I think last year, fiscal year to fiscal year, we added over 20% total shareholder return. And I don't think that in my view -- I guess all CEOs say this, but in my view, when you look at where our stock price has historically traded until more recently, the price is low relative to the value that we believe we can create with some operating leverage. So you always look for strategic opportunities, but they need to make sense.

 


Mark Franklin - Wells Fargo - Analyst

 

Okay. Okay, well, thank you so much and best of luck to you guys.

 

Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corporation - Chairman of the Board, President and Chief Executive Officer


 

Thank you.

 


Operator 

 

At this time, there are no further questions. I'll now return the call to Neil Wilkin for any additional or closing remarks.

 

Neil Wilkin - Optical Cable Corporation - Chairman of the Board, President and Chief Executive Officer


 

Okay. Thank you very much. I'd like to thank everyone for listening and participating in our first quarter conference call today. As always, we appreciate your time and interest in OCC. As a reminder, OCC's annual meeting of shareholders is scheduled for Tuesday, March 31, 2015, in Roanoke, Virginia, and please be sure to submit your votes ahead of the meeting, and we also look forward to seeing those of you who are able to attend in person. Thank you.

 


Operator 

 

Thank you for participating in the Optical Cable Corporation first quarter 2015 earnings conference call. You may now disconnect.